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Old 01-28-2008, 09:46 PM
T/A_pwrd_grandprix T/A_pwrd_grandprix is offline
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Default 400 to 455 conversion help pleas!!!

ok so currently i have a pontiac 400 out of a 73 trans am

(thats currently in a 1981 grandprix, and yes i know that thisisnt the correct sectionbut i figured that you guys would have more info that would help me do what i want)

but what im curious about is would it be possible to put the internals of a 455 (crank, rods, pistons)in a 400 and if so how difficult will it be?
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Old 01-29-2008, 07:58 PM
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Default RE: 400 to 455 conversion help pleas!!!

The 400 and 455 are externally the same size, but very different internally- the 400 has 3.0" mains, and the 455 has 3.25" mains.

You can still turn a 400 into a 455 by getting an Eagle cast stroker crank, forged I-beam or H-beam rods, and new forged pistons. I don't recommend reusing the stock cast rods since a new set of forged rods is only about $100 more, and the stock 455 pistons have a different deck height, so you need new ones. This kind of stroker conversion will cost about $1500-2500, depending on the kit you buy and where you buy it.

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Old 01-29-2008, 11:38 PM
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Default RE: 400 to 455 conversion help pleas!!!

ok thank you very much i did not know that.

how hard is it to find a running 455?
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Old 01-31-2008, 03:25 AM
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Default RE: 400 to 455 conversion help pleas!!!

I've been doing some comparison shopping- you can actually buy all of the components of a 400 to 467 stroker kit separately, and it will cost about $1100-1200, alot cheaper than buying the kit.

As far as finding a running 455, look in the local classifieds for '70-'76 Pontiac full size cars and wagons- you can buy these for a reasonable price, pull the motor and have the rest towed off. The boneyards may have them too, but will charge you more for them. I personally recommend building the new motor, so that you can learn and get a fresh motor that should last for a long time.

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Old 02-01-2008, 05:21 PM
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Default RE: 400 to 455 conversion help pleas!!!

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I personally recommend building the new motor, so that you can learn and get a fresh motor that should last for a long time.
what do you mean by this??? get a 455 and build on it? or do the 467 stroker?
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Old 02-01-2008, 08:59 PM
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Default RE: 400 to 455 conversion help pleas!!!

I 'd get a new block, 400 or 455 (whichever is easier and cheaper to get), decide what CID I want, and then build it. The 400 in your G/P runs, so no worries there- then when you're done with the 455/468, swap it in and you have aspare motor just in case.

I like the 400/468 stroker kit w/ the cast Eagle crank, forged 6.8 4340 H-beam rods, Ross pistons, and bearings because it's a good value (most speed shops on Ebay are selling this combo for about $1400-1500).Run good D-port 72cc heads and make about 475+ hp, or break open the piggy banlk, run E-heads and make 550+ hp. Good times!

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Old 02-03-2008, 12:45 AM
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Default RE: 400 to 455 conversion help pleas!!!

oh i see, i see

currently if i didnt hae some bad rings on one of the pistons i would be making an estimated 400hp so i guess that the 455 build would be a good way to go after i rebuild the 400.

thank you very much

jake
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